HOBBS – WINTER- STYLES Families of Leigh and Charcott
From information provided by Christine Litchfield and other on-line researches.
1939 Register via Find My Past
Civil Registration Indexes various
Also see Charcott for photographs.
Family Tree of Thomas Alfred Hobbs:
Family Tree of Styles and Winter:
WINTER family of Chiddingstone/Charcott, which shows the connection between Annie Draper and the Winter family – Annie Draper was beerhouse keeper at Charcott in 1901:
Much of the information in the family trees above comes from researching the 1841-1911 censuses for Chiddingstone and Charcott and the Family Search website.
The HOBBS family who lived in Leigh from about 1884 originally came from Brenchley. They can be found in the censuses. Thomas Alfred Hobbs (b. Brenchley 1862) married Elizabeth Charlotte Hook in 1885 (registered at Tunbridge Wells). Elizabeth was b. ca 1865 Brenchley – died bef. 1911. They had their first child Thomas A b. 1888 at Brenchley, and then they came to Hildenborough where Percy C was born in 1893; after that their children were born at Leigh:
Thomas A b. 1888 Brenchley
Percy C b. 1893 Hildenborough
Ernest b. 1895 Leigh
Bessie Rose b. 1897 Leigh
Frederick George Hobbs b. 1898 Leigh d. 1962 married 1934 Vera Winter b. 1910 Charcott
Dorothy b. 1901 Leigh
Christine Litchfield’s father was Frederick George Hobbs: his date of birth was 18 December 1898 (1939 Register) his birth registered at Sevenoaks 1899 (Civil Reg. Indexes). He died in 1962 (Civil Reg. Index for Tonbridge) aged 63.
Her mother was Vera A Winter, date of birth 3 July 1910 (1939 Register) at Charcott: her parents were Horace Winter and Rosanna Lavinia Styles.
According to the 1939 Register Frederick is described as a permanent wage labourer; and Vera as a domestic servant.
Frederick George Hobbs and Vera Winter married in 1934 (marriage registered at Sevenoaks June 1934). In 1939 they were living at Bough Beech (1939 Register)
According to Christine Litchfield, Vera’s grandfather – Edwin Walter Styles, took over the pub at Charcott in 1905/6. Rosannah Lavinia Styles, Edwin’s daughter, was a cook and she married Horace Winter in 1883 – he was a thatcher.
One of her uncle’s was Reginald Edwin Winter b. 1909 was known as Uncle Ted), b. Charcott. Her great uncle, Frederick Winter, b. Charcott 1898 was blinded in the First World War, and he then lived at St Dunstans, home for the blind in Brighton
From the censuses we have the following information on the family of Christine Litchfield:
1911 Census: Garden Cottages Leigh
Thomas Hobbs 47 mar. Agent Prudential b. Brenchley
Florence Hobbs 28 mar 1 child, 1 living b. Nunhead
Percy 18 b. Hildenborough
Ernest 16 b. Leigh
Frederick 13 b. Leigh
Thomas Alfred married Ada Florence Riches at Deal on 15 February 1904: he is given as a widower, insurance agent of Leigh (father William Hobbs dec. Blacksmith) and Ada Florence is 22, spinster of Deal, father Thomas Frederick Riches, accountant. (Their marriage certificate can be viewed on the FIndmy Past website)
Elizabeth Charlotte Ann Hobbs buried 7 Jan 1903 at Brenchley aged 38 (Find my past website: Brenchley Burials)
The 1911 census says that Florence Hobbs had one child, living – searching for this child, there was registered at Sevenoaks a Ralph Riches Hobbs born in 1905. On searching for him in the 1911 census he is living with his grandmother Eleanor Elizabeth Riches, a widow at Deal, along with Dorothy Hobbs, aged 10.
The 1901 census shows that the children named above are all from the first marriage to Elizabeth:
1901 Census: Leigh Village
Thomas Hobbs 38 Life Assurance Agent b. Brenchley
Elizabeth E. A. Hobbs 35 b. Brenchley
Thomas 13 Brenchley
Percy 8 Hildenborough
Ernest 6 Leigh
Bessie Rose 4 Leigh
Frederick George Hobbs 2 Leigh
Dorothy 2 mos Leigh
Other ancestors of Christine Litchfield were the STYLES and the WINTER families – both were large families, living at Charcott, although not originally from Charcott.
1911 census: Charcott Leigh
Horace Winter 28 mar 3 yrs 3 children/living general labourer b. Leigh
Rosa Winter 40 wife b. Lamberhurst
Hubert Winter son 2 b. Leigh
Reginald Winter son 1 b. Leigh
Vera daughter 8 months b. Leigh
Ernest Styles boarder 21 single bricklayer’s labourer b. Brenchley*
*From information from Christine Litchfield we know Ernest Styles is a relative: research shows he was the brother of Rosa (Rosanna Lavinia).
Rosa Winter’s full name was Rosanna Lavinia Styles.
Horace Winter was the son of Thomas Winter. Thomas Winter (b. ca 1851 Chiddingstone, son of James and Susanna Winter – James is a thatcher) and his wife, Ann, lived next to the Greyhound in the 1891 census and 1901 census. According to Christine Litchfield, the Winter family were from Wellers Town. In 1871 Thomas is given as a wood hoopmaker and is still living with his parents at Penshurst in Workhouse Cottage. By 1881 he is married and living with his wife, Ann, and daughter Alice at Wellers Town, nr Penshurst. By 1891 they are at Charcott, Leigh with their ever expanding family, although their daughter Alice is actually living with her great-grandmother, Avis Ingram, at the Greyhound at Charcott. In 1901, Thomas Winter becomes a general labourer on a farm. It appears from the Civil Registration indexes that Thomas probably died in 1906.
Searching the censuses for Avis Ingram, we find her in 1851 at Chiddingstone Hoath with her husband James and family, aged 38. (Her marriage is found at Westerham, 1832 – James Ingram and Avis Turner) In 1861 she is a widow, running the beer shop, the King’s Arms, at Causeway, living with her unmarried daughter Ann, aged 20, and her granddaughter Avis Ingram, aged 3. In 1871 she is now 57 running the Greyhound at Charcott, still with Avis and her granddaughter Ann. In 1881, she is still there; 1891 she is still there but has her great-granddaughter, Alice Winter with her, living next door to Thomas Winter, Ann and family. By 1901 Avis is no longer there – but cannot find a death entry for her, only for an Ann Ingram b. ca 1814 in 1892 Sevenoaks). In 1901 the Greyhound is run by Annie Draper, aged 38. Further research shows that Annie Draper was born Annie Hills, the daughter of Harriet Winter and George Hills. Harriet Winter was sister to James Winter and the aunt of Thomas Winter (see family tree above). Hence Annie Draper and Thomas Winter were cousins. However, in 1911 the Greyhound is run by Edwin STYLES – another ancestor of Christine Litchfield. The Greyhound – beerhouse – was therefore in the same family from at least 1871 until 1911 and beyond.
From the censuses we can ascertain Thomas and Ann’s children:
Alice Winter b. 1881 Penshurst
Edgar b. Penshurst 1882
Horace b. Leigh 1883
Clara b. 1886
Peter b. 1888
Harry b. 1890
Martha b. 1893
Ruth b. 1895
Fred b. 1898
Margaret M b. 1899
We found and Ernest Styles livings with Horace and Rosa Winter. Ernest Styles was a brother of Rosa. Their parents were Edwin Walter Styles and his wife Sarah Turner (b. Lamberhurst). Another large family, originally from Brenchley (and living at Brenchley at about the same time as the Hobbs family. So there is a connection. (However, do not know if there is a connection with Avis Ingram – nee Turner – as she was born at Chiddingstone)
At Brenchley the family lived at Knowle Cottage. They lived at Brenchley until at least 1901. Edwin was initially an agricultural labourer; in 1901 he was a farm bailiff. By 1911 he was retailer of beer at the Greyhound, Charcott – with just his wife and two younger children living with them. The census states they had 14 children of which 12 were living: below are given 13 from various censuses – another one of those named must have died before 1911. At Brenchley you can trace find Edwin’s parents, siblings and possibly trace the family further.
The children, taken from the various censuses, were:
STYLES family children at Brenchley (Knowle Cottage)
Of Edwin and Sarah Styles:
Rosannah b. 1871 Lamberhurst
George E b. 1873 Lamberhurst
Alfred T b. 1876 Brencley
Amy E b. 1878 Brenchley
Edith E b. 1880 Brenchley
John b. 1882 Brenchley
Elan b. 1885 Brenchley
Albert b. 1887 Brenchley
Victor b. 1888 Brenchley
Ernest b. 1891 Brenchley
Sidney b. 1893 Brenchley
Beatrice b. 1896 Brenchley
Lewis b. 1898 Brenchley
Edwin STYLES married Sarah TURNER in 1870 (marriage registered at Ticehurst). There first two children are born at Lamberhurst (where Sarah was born) before they moved to Brenchley.
Sarah Turner’s family: information is available via the censuses. Her parents were William Turner of Lamberhurst, an agricultural labourer and Mary Ann, also born Lamberhurst. By 1861, however, William was a widower. (Mary Ann death’s is probably that registered in 1854 at Ticehurst). And from the 1861 census (at Hook Green) we can move back another generation and see that William’s father was also an agricultural labourer, born in 1784 at Frant, by 1861 a widower also. (The 1841 census gives this William’s wife as probably being Sarah with another possible son of theirs being John).
TURNER family children:
William Turner b. 1807 Lamberhurst married Mary Ann.:
William b. 1834 Lamberhurst
Zebbulan b. 1835 Lamberhurst
Aaron b. 1837 Lamberhurst
Lavinia b. 1838 Lamberhurst
Frances b. 1841 Lamberhurst
Henry b. 1844 Lamberhurst
Philip b. 1845 Lamberhurst
Winnifred b. 1849 Lamberhurst
George b. 1850 Lamberhurst
Sarah b. 1852 Lamberhurst
There is a lot more information about these families that can be obtained from the on-line sources available – as well as from visiting the relevant local record offices.
Joyce Field (October 2016)